by Ragnar Danneskjöld on Thursday, 25 March 2010 at 23:26
Social justice- What is social justice? I don’t know what it means to you, or Glen Beck, or your preacher, and frankly I don’t care. What it means to me, is that the poor, needy, less fortunate, underprivileged or whatever you want to call these people deserve our help. I believe that too! See I am one of you. I want everyone to succeed, live a great life, have all they want to eat, a great house to live in, a healthy life, a great family, love and happiness. I want that for everyone. Where we differ is that I believe that they should want it enough to get all of those things on their own, and frankly if they do not that is their failure, and their responsibility. I will help them if I can, and if I feel that they are worthy of my help. Liberals on the other hand, also want to help them, and have all those things, BUT instead of wanting them to do it themselves or do without, they feel that nobody should do without, and if they can’t achieve these things that they should be given it. Now perhaps some liberals are truly generous and they will try to help these people by giving their own support to these people, but there are more that feel that they have a right to take from one person to give to these folks. This is not right and it is not moral in my mind. How would they feel if I was hungry, and came to their house, with my gun, and robbed them so I could eat? Is that right? Is that moral? Yet they feel totally okay with having the federal government do that to me.
Health care-"This person can’t afford healthcare, so we should give it to them." Health care is not a right in this country. If you feel strongly that everyone deserves it, then by all means, sell everything you own, and take all the money that you make and give it to these people so that they can afford it. How can you support taking from me to give to them? Is that "fair"? You may believe in your heart that they deserve health care, but I tell you that I do not believe they do. I hear the arguments that they burden the whole system by not having insurance and getting the care anyway, thereby making everyone's cost higher. I have a solution. Do not treat them. Let them die. Oh, now I am really a heartless bastard. Yes, let them die, and maybe the next person who has to choose between getting health insurance and paying the cell phone bill, will choose the health insurance. Do you liberals understand reward and penalty? You reward good behavior, and you penalize bad behavior. Do you have any concept of consequences of one's own actions? If a doctor feels that he can give treatment to people without money or insurance, then let them. But if they choose not to work for free, why are they forced to? Are you forced to do work for free? Surely your time and effort is worth money. Why is a doctor, who has trained more than you any different. This is not saying that I do not feel that doctors that choose to do so are wrong. On the contrary, I find them to be noble. Using the liberal logic, where does this stop? I need some new business cards, but can’t afford to get them right now. Should a printer be forced to give them to me because I have a "need"?
The waste- You know I would not change my opinions on "entitlement programs" (even the name of this pisses me off. As if they are entitled to anything, which I do not believe they are), but perhaps if the billions of dollars were not spent (I say wasted) on pet projects, earmarks, pork spending, and worthless programs, I may have less anger about them. Building a road here, or a bridge there, or a hospital here, or a grant for studying this there. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?! WE HAVE NO MONEY! We spend more than we bring in, yet you (both parties) spend money on all of these vote buying projects and gifts. How can 1 single representative or Senator justify 1 dollar of this BS? Pay for what we have to pay for first (things that are already in law, and in the constitution), then if money is left over.... SEND IT BACK TO THE PEOPLE WHO EARNED IT! These damn politicians see it as their money to dish out, and this is insane. All we are to them are machines that send them money. What is wrong with you people!?! Simple math you pandering crooks. You have a need for 1 dollar, you collect 1 dollar. You can’t collect 1 dollar then spend 5 dollars. Any 4 year old understands this principle, and family that has to do a budget understands it, yet time and time again you spend money that a) you do not have, and b) you didn't earn. What would you tell a person that makes 20K a year, and drives a new Mercedes, lives in a 500K house, has an iphone, 60 inch TV, cable with every channel ordered, and eats lobster and caviar every night then you find out that they have 80K in credit card debt? Would you not consider that person irresponsible? Yet we keep putting up with our politicians doing the same thing year after year. At what point will you say ENOUGH!? I am saying ENOUGH! Fire their asses. Why are we sending 1 single dollar to any other country? So they will like us? I feel bad for Haiti, but let’s let George Clooney have his telethon, and let people that want to give to Haiti, give to Haiti. Nobody from DC called me to ask if I wanted to give to Haiti. Maybe they called you, but I didn't get the call. Are we supposed to believe that the people running our government are intellectually and morally superior to us, and that they know how to spend our money better than we do. I think that the politicians should have had to make a phone call or at least mention on the floor the names of the 5 people that paid that 219K in income taxes. 'Mr. and Mrs. Smith, Ms. Jones, Dr and Mr. Brown, Mr. Thompson, Ms. Wong, we believe that this university needs this money to study the sexual habits of college girls, more than you need to send your kids to college, or buy a retirement home, or give to your church, or buy your first home, or buy that boat to take your granddaughter fishing. Maybe that would shame them into doing what is right.
The "stimulus" -what a bunch of BS. What exactly did it stimulate? Not the economy. Not the jobs in the US. Just 800 Billion of wasted money. Then they try to sell it from the jobs "created and saved" BS. Are any of you buying this crap? If you do, then frankly please "defriend" me, because you are not bright enough to be my friend. Want to stimulate the economy idiot? Lower taxes across the board. It worked for Kennedy, it worked for Reagan, and it worked for W after 9/11. It works! Every time it works, yet they won’t do it. Why? I can only think of one reason, and that is that Obama is set upon destroying the economy enough to implement more control. Control over the banks, the insurance companies, the car companies, and transfer power to Washington DC. Maybe I sound like some conspiracy nut, but if you can figure out a reason that Obama and his lot haven't done the one thing that has been proven to stimulate the economy, and gives private business the confidence and ability to hire people I am listening.
Bailouts- Let them fail! Whining that it would have destroyed the whole economy. Awesome! That’s what free markets do. They go up and they go down. When the government gets to choose the winners and losers, there are no free markets. Bailing out the auto companies? Hmm. Why GM and Chrysler, but not Goody’s, Sterling tucks, max factor, and Circuit City? Unions bought and paid for Obama, and he has their backs. In fact, when the Supreme Court decided not to take up the court case on the behalf of Chrysler bondholders, thereby allowing Obama to usurp contract law, I knew something had changed in the US. If you are not familiar let me enlighten you. Bonds have a higher debt precedent that any other in a bankruptcy. What does that mean? It means that when a company goes bankrupt that their assets are liquefied, and the bonds are paid first, then the class a stocks, then the common stock and so on, until there is no more money. Obama decided that instead of following contract law, that he would sign an order stating that the bondholders would receive 15% of their bands, and the union pension plan(which Chrysler borrowed form also) would be paid in full. Therefore, after Ruth Bader Ginsburg decided not to take the case to the court, she was thereby allowing Obama’s edict to be above the law. Travesty and it was widely ignored. I don’t even know that the usual suspects (right wing talking heads) brought it up. I am so sick and tired of the short term memory of the media. Look at the record. Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush!!!!! It’s all Bush’s fault! Yeah really? Funny how although the media had been crying about the horrible economy since 2001, yet do the facts support this? No. Unemployment hovered between 4-5.8% from 2001-2006, and then with the democrats taking back control of the congress in 2006 all the poop hit the fan culminating in 2008. Coincidence? Hardly. Then you have Chris Dodd and Barney frank pointing all the fingers at no regulation in the mortgage industry. That’s like those two standing at the top of a building, pushing a guy off, then blaming the pavement for killing him. The lack of regulation and the corruption of these two is amazing. How they are still in office and not hanging out in Levinworth is beyond me. Look I am not absolving W, but it seems a little incredulous that these assholes are talking about Bush’s deficits and his unfunded policies. UNFUNDED POLICIES?!?! Like the damn Medicare drug benefit program that you democrats said didn’t go far enough, or the “no child left behind” that you now berate, though it was Bush’s attempt at being bipartisan, with the manslaughterer Ted Kennedy? I hear the democrats say, you never said anything when Bush was spending like a madman but you would be wrong. I was screaming at the top of my lungs friends. Stupid spending is stupid spend no matter who is doing the spending. Not a big fan of W, but I am grateful that he kicked some ass and we never was hit again. The demonization of this guy is sickening. “Bush lied and people died.” You people are morons. Every time I challenge someone to back that bullcrap up, they whimper away to come back with some conspiracy BS. Screw you! You can all sit in your rooms smelling each other’s farts and telling each other how great yours smells, but frankly you are morons. Was bush perfect? Hell no! He should have had a better plan for Iraq. On Katrina, he should have done 1 of 2 things. My preference would have been to say, “I’m sorry for the devastation, but it is not the federal government’s responsibility to save the day, and unless we are asked by the Governor, we can’t intervene.” And after the rescue efforts are done say, “Hope ya’ll had insurance!, as it is not the responsibility of the federal governments to take care of you” What he probably should have done, was sweep in there like Patton into Bastogne, and saved them since he should have known that Ray Nagin and Kathleen Blanco were incompetent. Anyway, not a big fan of W, but the more liberals hate him, the more I figure he must be great.
All the corruption in DC is really disheartening. The democrats passed this health care reform bill using every underhanded trick they could think of. Through the bribery (why is nobody going to jail for this) special deals (oh the Unions do not have to pay the tax on "Cadillac plans" but everyone else does?) then this "reconciliation" deal? This common excuse that "the republicans did it" is so stupid it is hardly worth mentioning. This didn't work on my parents, but apparently it works on liberals. Look, you had a filibuster proof Senate and a huge majority in the house. You could have passed universal single payer and really I would have had less of a problem. Sure it would suck, but at least the rule of law would have been followed. It's disgusting how the democrats manipulated the system, but the smug looks on their faces will be smacked off soon. I hope that the Republicans do not follow their example on how to pass legislation that affects all Americans. They can do it. Trust me. They could do some really nasty things. My favorite though is that they could pass a bill that states, "Taxes will only be collected from VT, NY, MA, CT, NJ, DE, RI, MD, WV, MI, IL, MT, OR, WA, CA, HI, NM, CO, AR, and the current revenue levels shall be maintained." Huh? Well I am sure that the Senators and representatives from the exempt states would support that, and apparently special deals for certain states are no longer illegal. You hear the Dems whining about corporations that can now run political ads in support of a position or party, yet where has their outrage been when the unions collect their members money then donate directly to democratic politicians 60.7 million dollars to Obama alone from the SEIU. Where was the outrage then?
In Conclusion: Responsibility. People have to be responsible enough to take care of themselves, and to take care of the people that they care about. It’s not my responsibility to take care of your sick relative. It’s yours. It’s also our responsibility to put people in office that are responsible with our money, and do not spend it on buying themselves votes. I have a soft spot in my heart for children. To me children should be taken care of, and if their parents can’t take care of that for them, they should be taken care of, since they can’t control what sort of people that their parents are. I can hear people now telling me how people work hard and they can’t afford to take care of themselves. Well perhaps they are the most unlucky people in the world, but frankly they are not my problem, and they are exactly where they are in life due to the choices they have made. I understand that people have tragedies in their life, and I feel for them, but it still is not my fault, so I shouldn’t be blamed or penalized for someone else’s luck or choices. If you disagree, then by all means, sell everything you own, and give all your money, time and energy to them, and I will forever refer to you as a Saint.
Anyway. There’s my “hate speech”.
Amendment- And one last thing. Nothing pisses me off more than some whiney ass liberal who thinks that I sit in a room glued to talk radio and the Fox news channel, implying that I get all of my damn opinions from someone else. I am not them and I am certainly not you. When was the last time you wrote an original piece without just posting something from the Huffington Post, CNN or John Stewart? Do you just run around the liberal websites looking for some piece that will stir up the fart sniffers and enrage a few ideological opposites? I have been accused of being a myrmidon of Neal Boortz, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and now Glen Beck. I don’t listen to these people, or watch their television shows. (If I do it is Boortz, maybe an hour or 2 a week) I do my own damn research trying to use primary sources whenever I can, although wading through the government bureaucracy and their websites are tedious at best. I comment on someone else’s link on what Glen Beck said about ‘Social Justice” So I take the time to go look up what the hell, ‘Social Justice” means, look into the background, and post an opinion. Then I get accused of following the Glen Beck Schtick. If anything that asshole is following mine. Just like yesterday. I come up with this brilliant plan to run the US as a corporation and give people 1 vote per dollar that they pay in taxes, then last night I hear Michael Savage say something almost verbatim. Maybe we are all a bunch of weirdos that think the same. Maybe that’s why all the liberals I hear sound the same, as they bypass issues, and go straight for the healthcare is a right, and pre-existing conditions are not a bad thing. Do you people even understand why the hell pre-existing conditions may be a concern from a company that is insuring your health? I tell you what, lets throw out “pre-existing conditions” on all insurance. Why stop with health? I think I would like to take out some life insurance on some dead relatives. Makes as much sense.
I’m done!
Health care-"This person can’t afford healthcare, so we should give it to them." Health care is not a right in this country. If you feel strongly that everyone deserves it, then by all means, sell everything you own, and take all the money that you make and give it to these people so that they can afford it. How can you support taking from me to give to them? Is that "fair"? You may believe in your heart that they deserve health care, but I tell you that I do not believe they do. I hear the arguments that they burden the whole system by not having insurance and getting the care anyway, thereby making everyone's cost higher. I have a solution. Do not treat them. Let them die. Oh, now I am really a heartless bastard. Yes, let them die, and maybe the next person who has to choose between getting health insurance and paying the cell phone bill, will choose the health insurance. Do you liberals understand reward and penalty? You reward good behavior, and you penalize bad behavior. Do you have any concept of consequences of one's own actions? If a doctor feels that he can give treatment to people without money or insurance, then let them. But if they choose not to work for free, why are they forced to? Are you forced to do work for free? Surely your time and effort is worth money. Why is a doctor, who has trained more than you any different. This is not saying that I do not feel that doctors that choose to do so are wrong. On the contrary, I find them to be noble. Using the liberal logic, where does this stop? I need some new business cards, but can’t afford to get them right now. Should a printer be forced to give them to me because I have a "need"?
The waste- You know I would not change my opinions on "entitlement programs" (even the name of this pisses me off. As if they are entitled to anything, which I do not believe they are), but perhaps if the billions of dollars were not spent (I say wasted) on pet projects, earmarks, pork spending, and worthless programs, I may have less anger about them. Building a road here, or a bridge there, or a hospital here, or a grant for studying this there. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?! WE HAVE NO MONEY! We spend more than we bring in, yet you (both parties) spend money on all of these vote buying projects and gifts. How can 1 single representative or Senator justify 1 dollar of this BS? Pay for what we have to pay for first (things that are already in law, and in the constitution), then if money is left over.... SEND IT BACK TO THE PEOPLE WHO EARNED IT! These damn politicians see it as their money to dish out, and this is insane. All we are to them are machines that send them money. What is wrong with you people!?! Simple math you pandering crooks. You have a need for 1 dollar, you collect 1 dollar. You can’t collect 1 dollar then spend 5 dollars. Any 4 year old understands this principle, and family that has to do a budget understands it, yet time and time again you spend money that a) you do not have, and b) you didn't earn. What would you tell a person that makes 20K a year, and drives a new Mercedes, lives in a 500K house, has an iphone, 60 inch TV, cable with every channel ordered, and eats lobster and caviar every night then you find out that they have 80K in credit card debt? Would you not consider that person irresponsible? Yet we keep putting up with our politicians doing the same thing year after year. At what point will you say ENOUGH!? I am saying ENOUGH! Fire their asses. Why are we sending 1 single dollar to any other country? So they will like us? I feel bad for Haiti, but let’s let George Clooney have his telethon, and let people that want to give to Haiti, give to Haiti. Nobody from DC called me to ask if I wanted to give to Haiti. Maybe they called you, but I didn't get the call. Are we supposed to believe that the people running our government are intellectually and morally superior to us, and that they know how to spend our money better than we do. I think that the politicians should have had to make a phone call or at least mention on the floor the names of the 5 people that paid that 219K in income taxes. 'Mr. and Mrs. Smith, Ms. Jones, Dr and Mr. Brown, Mr. Thompson, Ms. Wong, we believe that this university needs this money to study the sexual habits of college girls, more than you need to send your kids to college, or buy a retirement home, or give to your church, or buy your first home, or buy that boat to take your granddaughter fishing. Maybe that would shame them into doing what is right.
The "stimulus" -what a bunch of BS. What exactly did it stimulate? Not the economy. Not the jobs in the US. Just 800 Billion of wasted money. Then they try to sell it from the jobs "created and saved" BS. Are any of you buying this crap? If you do, then frankly please "defriend" me, because you are not bright enough to be my friend. Want to stimulate the economy idiot? Lower taxes across the board. It worked for Kennedy, it worked for Reagan, and it worked for W after 9/11. It works! Every time it works, yet they won’t do it. Why? I can only think of one reason, and that is that Obama is set upon destroying the economy enough to implement more control. Control over the banks, the insurance companies, the car companies, and transfer power to Washington DC. Maybe I sound like some conspiracy nut, but if you can figure out a reason that Obama and his lot haven't done the one thing that has been proven to stimulate the economy, and gives private business the confidence and ability to hire people I am listening.
Bailouts- Let them fail! Whining that it would have destroyed the whole economy. Awesome! That’s what free markets do. They go up and they go down. When the government gets to choose the winners and losers, there are no free markets. Bailing out the auto companies? Hmm. Why GM and Chrysler, but not Goody’s, Sterling tucks, max factor, and Circuit City? Unions bought and paid for Obama, and he has their backs. In fact, when the Supreme Court decided not to take up the court case on the behalf of Chrysler bondholders, thereby allowing Obama to usurp contract law, I knew something had changed in the US. If you are not familiar let me enlighten you. Bonds have a higher debt precedent that any other in a bankruptcy. What does that mean? It means that when a company goes bankrupt that their assets are liquefied, and the bonds are paid first, then the class a stocks, then the common stock and so on, until there is no more money. Obama decided that instead of following contract law, that he would sign an order stating that the bondholders would receive 15% of their bands, and the union pension plan(which Chrysler borrowed form also) would be paid in full. Therefore, after Ruth Bader Ginsburg decided not to take the case to the court, she was thereby allowing Obama’s edict to be above the law. Travesty and it was widely ignored. I don’t even know that the usual suspects (right wing talking heads) brought it up. I am so sick and tired of the short term memory of the media. Look at the record. Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush!!!!! It’s all Bush’s fault! Yeah really? Funny how although the media had been crying about the horrible economy since 2001, yet do the facts support this? No. Unemployment hovered between 4-5.8% from 2001-2006, and then with the democrats taking back control of the congress in 2006 all the poop hit the fan culminating in 2008. Coincidence? Hardly. Then you have Chris Dodd and Barney frank pointing all the fingers at no regulation in the mortgage industry. That’s like those two standing at the top of a building, pushing a guy off, then blaming the pavement for killing him. The lack of regulation and the corruption of these two is amazing. How they are still in office and not hanging out in Levinworth is beyond me. Look I am not absolving W, but it seems a little incredulous that these assholes are talking about Bush’s deficits and his unfunded policies. UNFUNDED POLICIES?!?! Like the damn Medicare drug benefit program that you democrats said didn’t go far enough, or the “no child left behind” that you now berate, though it was Bush’s attempt at being bipartisan, with the manslaughterer Ted Kennedy? I hear the democrats say, you never said anything when Bush was spending like a madman but you would be wrong. I was screaming at the top of my lungs friends. Stupid spending is stupid spend no matter who is doing the spending. Not a big fan of W, but I am grateful that he kicked some ass and we never was hit again. The demonization of this guy is sickening. “Bush lied and people died.” You people are morons. Every time I challenge someone to back that bullcrap up, they whimper away to come back with some conspiracy BS. Screw you! You can all sit in your rooms smelling each other’s farts and telling each other how great yours smells, but frankly you are morons. Was bush perfect? Hell no! He should have had a better plan for Iraq. On Katrina, he should have done 1 of 2 things. My preference would have been to say, “I’m sorry for the devastation, but it is not the federal government’s responsibility to save the day, and unless we are asked by the Governor, we can’t intervene.” And after the rescue efforts are done say, “Hope ya’ll had insurance!, as it is not the responsibility of the federal governments to take care of you” What he probably should have done, was sweep in there like Patton into Bastogne, and saved them since he should have known that Ray Nagin and Kathleen Blanco were incompetent. Anyway, not a big fan of W, but the more liberals hate him, the more I figure he must be great.
All the corruption in DC is really disheartening. The democrats passed this health care reform bill using every underhanded trick they could think of. Through the bribery (why is nobody going to jail for this) special deals (oh the Unions do not have to pay the tax on "Cadillac plans" but everyone else does?) then this "reconciliation" deal? This common excuse that "the republicans did it" is so stupid it is hardly worth mentioning. This didn't work on my parents, but apparently it works on liberals. Look, you had a filibuster proof Senate and a huge majority in the house. You could have passed universal single payer and really I would have had less of a problem. Sure it would suck, but at least the rule of law would have been followed. It's disgusting how the democrats manipulated the system, but the smug looks on their faces will be smacked off soon. I hope that the Republicans do not follow their example on how to pass legislation that affects all Americans. They can do it. Trust me. They could do some really nasty things. My favorite though is that they could pass a bill that states, "Taxes will only be collected from VT, NY, MA, CT, NJ, DE, RI, MD, WV, MI, IL, MT, OR, WA, CA, HI, NM, CO, AR, and the current revenue levels shall be maintained." Huh? Well I am sure that the Senators and representatives from the exempt states would support that, and apparently special deals for certain states are no longer illegal. You hear the Dems whining about corporations that can now run political ads in support of a position or party, yet where has their outrage been when the unions collect their members money then donate directly to democratic politicians 60.7 million dollars to Obama alone from the SEIU. Where was the outrage then?
In Conclusion: Responsibility. People have to be responsible enough to take care of themselves, and to take care of the people that they care about. It’s not my responsibility to take care of your sick relative. It’s yours. It’s also our responsibility to put people in office that are responsible with our money, and do not spend it on buying themselves votes. I have a soft spot in my heart for children. To me children should be taken care of, and if their parents can’t take care of that for them, they should be taken care of, since they can’t control what sort of people that their parents are. I can hear people now telling me how people work hard and they can’t afford to take care of themselves. Well perhaps they are the most unlucky people in the world, but frankly they are not my problem, and they are exactly where they are in life due to the choices they have made. I understand that people have tragedies in their life, and I feel for them, but it still is not my fault, so I shouldn’t be blamed or penalized for someone else’s luck or choices. If you disagree, then by all means, sell everything you own, and give all your money, time and energy to them, and I will forever refer to you as a Saint.
Anyway. There’s my “hate speech”.
Amendment- And one last thing. Nothing pisses me off more than some whiney ass liberal who thinks that I sit in a room glued to talk radio and the Fox news channel, implying that I get all of my damn opinions from someone else. I am not them and I am certainly not you. When was the last time you wrote an original piece without just posting something from the Huffington Post, CNN or John Stewart? Do you just run around the liberal websites looking for some piece that will stir up the fart sniffers and enrage a few ideological opposites? I have been accused of being a myrmidon of Neal Boortz, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and now Glen Beck. I don’t listen to these people, or watch their television shows. (If I do it is Boortz, maybe an hour or 2 a week) I do my own damn research trying to use primary sources whenever I can, although wading through the government bureaucracy and their websites are tedious at best. I comment on someone else’s link on what Glen Beck said about ‘Social Justice” So I take the time to go look up what the hell, ‘Social Justice” means, look into the background, and post an opinion. Then I get accused of following the Glen Beck Schtick. If anything that asshole is following mine. Just like yesterday. I come up with this brilliant plan to run the US as a corporation and give people 1 vote per dollar that they pay in taxes, then last night I hear Michael Savage say something almost verbatim. Maybe we are all a bunch of weirdos that think the same. Maybe that’s why all the liberals I hear sound the same, as they bypass issues, and go straight for the healthcare is a right, and pre-existing conditions are not a bad thing. Do you people even understand why the hell pre-existing conditions may be a concern from a company that is insuring your health? I tell you what, lets throw out “pre-existing conditions” on all insurance. Why stop with health? I think I would like to take out some life insurance on some dead relatives. Makes as much sense.
I’m done!
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